How to Talk With Your Lawyer – Mark Daryl Rasch – CSP #80

A Lawyer can be the CISOs best friend and advocate for cybersecurity investments. Are you frustrated with a lawyers answer of, “it depends?” Lawyers have a different thought process than many CISOs when apply the law. Join this session from a notable cybersecurity lawyer as to the differences in language and how to best take advantage of the legal expertise available to support the mission.

To view the article from the CISO COMPASS Book that sparked this interview, please visit:

Rasch, M. 2019. How to Talk to Your Lawyer In CISO COMPASS: Navigating Cybersecurity Leadership Challenges with Insights from Pioneers, 1st Ed, pgs. 317-318. Fitzgerald, T. CRC Press, Boca Raton, Fl.
Full Episode Show Notes

How to Talk With Your Lawyer


Mark Daryl Rasch

Mark Daryl Rasch – General Counsel at Unit221B

A world leader in data security and privacy law, including data breach and ransomware response, internal and external investigations, and regulatory compliance, Mar. Rasch has appeared as an expert on various news outlets, and was responsible for the prosecution of the first computer hacker case under federal law. He teaches computer crime law at George Washington University School of Law in Washington, D.C.


Todd Fitzgerald

Todd Fitzgerald – Vice President, Cybersecurity Strategy at Cybersecurity Collaborative


Todd Fitzgerald has built information Fortune 500/large company security programs for 20 years. Todd serves as VP, Cybersecurity Strategy and Chairman of the Cybersecurity Collaborative Executive Committee, was named 2016–17 Chicago CISO of the Year, ranked Top 50 Information Security Executive, authored 4 books including #1 Best Selling and 2020 CANON Hall of Fame Winner CISO COMPASS: Navigating Cybersecurity Leadership Challenges with Insights from Pioneers (2019), ground-breaking CISO Leadership: Essential Principles for Success, as well as contributions to a dozen others. Todd held senior leadership positions at Northern Trust, Grant Thornton International, Ltd, ManpowerGroup, WellPoint (Anthem) Blue Cross Blue Shield/ National Government Services, Zeneca/Syngenta, IMS Health and American Airlines.