Metrics, Training, Culture & Cloud Security Resilience – Drew Rose, Ganesh Pai – ESW #229

Metrics, Training, Culture – Why Your Phishing Program Isn’t Working – Drew Rose, Living Security

Phishing reports have become the standard for measuring security awareness, and yet breaches keep happening. Something is broken. Knowing how to recognize a phishing attempt is a tiny part of creating a security-focused culture and protecting your business from attacks.

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A New Perspective on Cloud Security Resilience – Ganesh Pai, Uptycs

Cloud security, the next frontier. How do we build resilient services in the cloud and secure them. Ganesh Pai, CEO at Uptycs, joins us to discuss a new perspective on cloud security resilience.

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Full Episode Show Notes

Metrics, Training, Culture & Cloud Security Resilience


Drew Rose

Drew Rose – CSO – Founder at Living Security


As Living Security’s creative mastermind, Drew Rose combines his experience developing security programs and his love of game design to expertly craft immersive products. He seeks to engage end users and create excitement with his educational experiences and measurable outcomes. Drew is a CISSP with a Bachelors of Science in Cybersecurity who has spent years building and optimizing security programs in the public and private sectors. While serving in the military, Drew learned effective strategies for fighting cybercrime and earned a top-level security rating in the U.S. government. At Living Security, Drew applies his in-depth knowledge to reducing enterprise and personal risk by designing science-based, collaborative security awareness programs.

Ganesh Pai

Ganesh Pai – CEO & Founder at Uptycs

Ganesh Pai is Founder & CEO of Uptycs. He is a Boston-based entrepreneur and technologist (formerly Akamai, Verivue, NetDevices) and has been awarded multiple U.S. patents. Ganesh received a BE degree in electronics and communication engineering from Mangalore University and a MS in computer science from Temple University.


Matt Alderman

Matt Alderman – Executive Director at CyberRisk Alliance


Strategic Advisor at Automox, security consultant, and wizard of entrepreneurship.

Paul Asadoorian

Paul Asadoorian – Founder at Security Weekly


Paul Asadoorian is the founder of Security Weekly, which was acquired by CyberRisk Alliance. Paul spent time “in the trenches” implementing security programs for a lottery company and then a large university. Paul is offensive, having spent several years as a penetration tester. As Product Evangelist for Tenable Network Security, Paul built a library of materials on the topic of vulnerability management. When not hacking together embedded systems (or just plain hacking them) or coding silly projects in Python, Paul can be found researching his next set of headphones.


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