The CISO Six Minute Rule – Renee Stark – CSP #60

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Sharing sensitive information on a website is likely to solicit a ‘No Way” response from the CISO. Renee was faced with these decisions early in her career and needed a way to determine and communicate the right pragmatic and ethical decision. She developed the ‘Six-Month Rule”, which has evolved into the “Six-Minute Rule” to guide these decisions. Just us as Renee articulates how to help appropriate stakeholders make informed risk/reward decisions.

To view the article from the CISO COMPASS Book that sparked this interview, please visit:

Guttmann-Stark, R. 2019 Six-Minute Rule. In CISO COMPASS: Navigating Cybersecurity Leadership Challenges with Insights from Pioneers, 1st Ed, pg 194-195. Fitzgerald, T. CRC Press, Boca Raton, Fl.

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Full Episode Show Notes

The CISO Six Minute Rule


Renee Stark

Renee Guttmann Stark – Global CISO, Board Advisor at Former Campbell

Renee Guttmann has more than 25 years of experience managing information security technology risk for multinational corporations. Renee is one of the first women in the cybersecurity industry. She was the CISO at Time Warner, Coca-Cola, Royal Caribbean, and Campbell Soup Company. She created the information security program for Capital One and led the architecture and implementation of the company’s first customer accessible online websites. In 2021, Renee was named to the CSO Hall of Fame for her work to advance the CSO/CISO role, secure business, and inspire others in the industry. Renee is an advisor to several start-ups and Venture Capital firms. Her passion is helping teams and individuals on their cybersecurity career journey.


Todd Fitzgerald

Todd Fitzgerald – Vice President, Cybersecurity Strategy at Cybersecurity Collaborative


Todd Fitzgerald has built information Fortune 500/large company security programs for 20 years. Todd serves as VP, Cybersecurity Strategy and Chairman of the Cybersecurity Collaborative Executive Committee, was named 2016–17 Chicago CISO of the Year, ranked Top 50 Information Security Executive, authored 4 books including #1 Best Selling and 2020 CANON Hall of Fame Winner CISO COMPASS: Navigating Cybersecurity Leadership Challenges with Insights from Pioneers (2019), ground-breaking CISO Leadership: Essential Principles for Success, as well as contributions to a dozen others. Todd held senior leadership positions at Northern Trust, Grant Thornton International, Ltd, ManpowerGroup, WellPoint (Anthem) Blue Cross Blue Shield/ National Government Services, Zeneca/Syngenta, IMS Health and American Airlines.